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Commissioner Stoll on Being Part of ‘First Family’ of Patent Law

Commissioner Stoll on Being Part of ‘First Family’ of Patent Law

Former Patent Commissioner Robert Stoll joins the Clause 8 podcast to talk about working his way up from being an examiner to being the commissioner over his 30+ year-long career at the USPTO.  As commissioner, Bob helped former USTPO Director David Kappos implement the American Invents Act (AIA) and transform how the USPTO’s patent examiners operate.  Before that, he served as USPTO’s head of the Office of Legislation and International Affairs under Director John Dudas.  Now out of government, he freely shares what he thought about what happened at the USPTO during his time there as an executive, why he stayed, and what he thinks about the current state of America’s patent system.

He also talks about what it’s like to be part of the “first family” of IP law, which includes Federal Circuit Judge Kara Stoll.

In this episode, Eli and Bob also discuss:

  • How so many of Bob’s family members ended up serving in senior IP roles in every branch of US government and internationally

  • Bob’s secrets for longevity & success at the USPTO

  • How he became Commissioner

  • Relationship with David Kappos

  • Whether the USPTO Director is really in charge of an administration’s patent policy

  • Creation of the Patent Trial and Appeals Board (PTAB) and post-grant proceedings

  • Role of “patent troll” narrative

  • Whether there is a “patent quality” problem

  • Director Vidal’s exercise of her Director review power

  • Proposals to record examiner interviews

  • Importance of IP bar organizations in shaping policies

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Eli Mazour’s love of talking to people – along with his belief in the importance of America’s patent system – led him to start Clause 8. Clause 8 features conversations that provide strategic insights about how to best deal with various patent-related issues. Some of the previous guests include America’s great innovators, federal judges, USPTO Directors, top IP staffers on Capitol Hill, and Carole Baskin’s attorney from the documentary Tiger King.
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