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World’s #1 IP Dealmaker You Haven't Heard of...Yet
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World’s #1 IP Dealmaker You Haven't Heard of...Yet

If you’ve come across a national news story about some brash character making lots of money from patent deals, chances are that the person making those deals happen behind the scenes was an unassuming lawyer in Israel.  Her name is Lillian Shaked. 

On this episode, Lillian tells the story of how she went from being a commercial attorney in Israel to working with who’s who of patent monetization legends around the world and likely working on more major patent deals than any other attorney in the world.  Lillian also talks about her relatively recent transition from being the lawyer to acquiring and monetizing the patents herself.  This is likely only the beginning of that story….

In this episode, Eli & Lillian discuss:

  • How moving from Canada to Israel set her apart as Israel’s high tech sector boomed

  • How Lillian made a patent transaction career from one patent deal

  • Working with Erich Spangenberg

  • Advantage of working from Israel on American patent deals

  • Importance of ongoing, positive relationships between parties involved in patent transactions

  • Monetization strategies based on reasonableness of infringers/potential licensees

  • Impact of course correction in patent market after the boom years in the early 2000s

  • Rise of litigation funding

  • Why patent litigation funding companies moved from taking passive role to taking active role

  • How and why patent litigators prevent win-win outcomes

  • Terms to avoid in patent deals

  • Why and how deals fall apart

  • Importance of momentum for patent transactions

  • Why the BlackBerry patent deal fell apart

  • Transitioning from handling the transactions as a lawyer to acquiring patents from beginning

  • Advice for building valuable patent portfolios

  • Efforts to shame patent assertion entities

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Eli Mazour’s love of talking to people – along with his belief in the importance of America’s patent system – led him to start Clause 8. Clause 8 features conversations that provide strategic insights about how to best deal with various patent-related issues. Some of the previous guests include America’s great innovators, federal judges, USPTO Directors, top IP staffers on Capitol Hill, and Carole Baskin’s attorney from the documentary Tiger King.
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